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Vladimir Ivanov



: 21.09.2003
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: , 14 2011, 1:32     :

" MS Project + Turbo VS Primavera + PMSOFT"
Oleksiy Prosnitskyy



: 25.06.2009
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: , 14 2011, 2:55     :

e oo e ypoa. oy yx ao ya
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Dic



: 01.11.2003
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: , 17 2011, 14:50     :

op e!

Ca ycapea, ee o ee ya. oae Primavera Roadmap, ocope a y epc, oopa oac epae. Oracle ae pyoe eee apxeype poya epa co co aopa, o ce BI ERP. opaoaa eee epece, Prof. eep e ya ye yoee. Ececeo oce oy cao oa Primavera, pec cea paoy a oa, o poecc e o xoo. ya pao ca poy/aopy epo. poe 1-2 oa ya peya ye. Microsoft ec opa, ocop a oa e ocoyec.
o acaec PMsoft, o poe cao PMSoft aoaoc oooo, oop y o oa e ea pcyac ea, ocoeo epeco e a copoy Microsoft. Kca, epa c Sharepoint, ye ec caap ocae poya. PMsoft capaec poa co poy epoo ye ycape.
B o o yyee opoax peex apepo, o coace ooc. ya, Oracle ye cypoa apepcy ce ac o oe ooo a o pyea pee oc oe copo.
Vladimir Ivanov



: 21.09.2003
: 3534
: TurboProject.Ru

: , 17 2011, 20:08     :

oa, o Ba e pac, o MCOT ee oypee peyeca a ae oox pee. Opaa ae, o o copee epae (opacee), e opoae.

Hae opoax pee "opoaoo" eopa - o ae yox poe cceoo xapaepa poye eopa. aec o, o e cpaec o a-o oea co coe aae.

Oey, o coepaeo p e ae Bae cooe. Ba yo o ccac a o-o Road Map, o oaa co oy pe.

Primavera Road Map - o oe ac aepe.

"The following is intended to outline our general product direction. It is intended for information purposes only, and may not be incorporated into any contract. It is not a commitment to deliver anymaterial, code, or functionality, and should not berelied upon in making purchasing decision. The development, release, and timing of any features or functionality described for Oracles products remains at the sole discretion of Oracle"

Te e eee, oye epea ecy pa oop, ec oy yy ocoa. aoape a oee paepyoe caae p co cca a co.

Caco.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
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: , 17 2011, 21:18     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():
oa, o Ba e pac, o MCOT ee oypee peyeca a ae oox pee. Opaa ae, o o copee epae (opacee), e opoae.

Hae opoax pee "opoaoo" eopa - o ae yox poe cceoo xapaepa poye eopa. aec o, o e cpaec o a-o oea co coe aae.

Oey, o coepaeo p e ae Bae cooe. Ba yo o ccac a o-o Road Map, o oaa co oy pe.

Primavera Road Map - o oe ac aepe.

...

Te e eee, oye epea ecy pa oop, ec oy yy ocoa. aoape a oee paepyoe caae p co cca a co.

Caco.


epae cao oa PMSoft. a, a oy cop, oa oa a yea epexo a A0, ooy o pyoo e e ye. Hy a ao, ya, copo ce ec.
e ec ca a a June 2010, e ae a y eo oo ppe opy. B e poaa, 2010-2011, ce aepe o 2010 oy oe epc 7 co cpa 10-11 apep.
- Event-driven architecture - enable both Human & Automated workflow
- UMC integration reduce out the box cost
- MS Sharepoint integration enable plug'n'play interoperability
- Java-based Progress Reporter reduce deployment costs
- Oracle enterpricse technology support
- Oracle Spatial (paa oa e pyccx ap)

30-31 ca, o peaoao 7-e o ye 8-e.

Ceac ye c BI-opaoca, e oepaec a ms sql. Reprting aa oa , oo Oracle.

e oec oca pe o 12 epa, ocope o ec o eae. Oa o JBoos oy Opaocoo WEBlogic Cep.
Hoe template, ae eooo. Paoe poecc o Oracle BMP 11g. Ho peop. Ha ocaoe poco e pee.
HO, oyea a ce o ocae ea yeo. Aoc yaco o, 2 eaca oy oepe, oope e yaoc ocope o poco ceo, a cae opy a oopo aa opoc ypo, a oca ya eoc ypaee ooae Project Management. Mapoco cox apepo peepo o a, a o ...

Cy oeo cooe o, o ce cpo eec Opa, oxoe aax ce a paa poy, a e cea eo pao apa, a oe oop.

Add:
Baa aa:
"P cex cce oepa pyy ax Microsoft Project. Peee Turbo EPM oepae apyy ce c coxpaee oooce o aypoa e pecypc opa Microsoft Project, o yaoc pee. Primavera ec oo oo peee apy ce A0."
aa c Mco: http://turboproject.ru/programs/infostroy/pmagent/
"PMAgent pa oece oooc epa Primavera c pa ce popaa. C o e PMAgent peaoa exa opa oax ce cex popa, oepax opa oea APC. "

T.e. PMAgent oe py APC. A o epa, oo c A0.
Vladimir Ivanov



: 21.09.2003
: 3534
: TurboProject.Ru

: , 17 2011, 22:20     :

aaa oey, o MCOT ooyc ye e o o apepa MS, .. o oype, o yaae, ocoy e aac "oxopoo".

Road Map epea
http://www.pmdoctor.ru/documents/Primavera_Roadmap.pdf

B cepeo? o o apeo y- o poao. B cepeo yaee, o eop ye pacpa PEAHE a pa poya? Laughing

ca axoyc a e eaec Road Map MS Project. Ta o, ec o e xo o 1% o a ec, Microsoft eo aaae. Me poco ye Baa aoc, o Oracle cpoe NDA yeoo oa security. Te e eee, epea Peo. yc ocop, caco.

oo, o pee ocoo ap pe o oy, o ye o ao. a a oope oo ccac o e. o poco ape, a e exec aepa. oa ec e paepyoo oca oo a yoo, o ce oepa opoepa yepee o cooec Oracle eappoa aepe.

Workflow o Oracle o poac. Hy e y Oracle SharePoint, Domino. Ocae workflow-aop o ae e opo, a pe cop. e ec aa 100 000 000 epo a SP?

po APC. Ty ae AEKT. APC caap eca ycoo. oca ceye, o poepc oo ae A0.

"epa" - o epaoa e. Mape. ac aao Turbo aoo ceap. Ke apaoa, ceac eo oca R\O pocopa ce. Ho acoa cey peao e copaec e ee pecypco aepo ao pao.

Co ceo paoa, o e a Paint pacpaa. ae eoa cea o co o.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
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: , 17 2011, 22:40     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():

po APC. Ty ae AEKT. APC caap eca ycoo. oca ceye, o poepc oo ae A0.



http://no-arps.ru/

epee cex popa, poex ecpoae HO APC a cooece peoa Peaea ecpoa cex popa BM a pee a paoococooc cpec a cex opao opoa Moc TCH-2001 o ecaopoaoo cooa cooec eoa pee TCH-2001 cex paceax paoococooc opaa APC 1.10

A0
eop: Ce cpoe
PK
Cpoe cep
Smeta.ru
Smeta WIZARD
WinCea
WinABePC

a ce a e oa.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
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: , 17 2011, 22:46     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():

"epa" - o epaoa e. Mape. ac aao Turbo aoo ceap. Ke apaoa, ceac eo oca R\O pocopa ce. Ho acoa cey peao e copaec e ee pecypco aepo ao pao.


Bce ac o oa, ec o oo oe e aeo oa, e epa ae eopa. ... aeo oa, ce yepac oce oca KC-co Smile)) a yo ooa. y.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
: 36
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: , 17 2011, 22:51     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():

Workflow o Oracle o poac. Hy e y Oracle SharePoint, Domino. Ocae workflow-aop o ae e opo, a pe cop. e ec aa 100 000 000 epo a SP?


Ec Weblogic, ypoaa, ooaopea, oepaa o e RAC. o e cex. Bce e ec Smile))
Cee e o. Cc cpaa oeceo, apep o-o epe ms sql oracle 10g. a, o y oo ec 1C, oe o ee ms sql.
B o y ca o HPPM, oop epax y apepa. ae ey o HP, e co oy, a eo yaa, a e epece.
Pao oop, o poaoc. 1 o o e oo. Toe opeoe ypaee y MS, oo epc 2010 ooa o opaoo cooa poaee, a o e 1 o oce oy y UMT.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
: 36
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: , 17 2011, 23:16     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():

B cepeo? o o apeo y- o poao. B cepeo yaee, o eop ye pacpa PEAHE a pa poya? Laughing



Ka o ceo BCE aa " o" Smile))) eycoo, ec ape ee. HO, oo e poep, paa. ocae oce epc poya, poec o epecy a ecoo pepe oope oa e pec cea, y-, poce ape, c exooe. Te oee a o o 2010 oa.
Te oee, oa oe 12 e opac, ec ye opeoc pa eycoo ee oe, oope a pac, e o y-.

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Caco Bap, a ocoey ecey. pa ooac Smile
Vladimir Ivanov



: 21.09.2003
: 3534
: TurboProject.Ru

: , 17 2011, 23:28     :

Dic ():
Vladimir Ivanov ():

"epa" - o epaoa e. Mape. ac aao Turbo aoo ceap. Ke apaoa, ceac eo oca R\O pocopa ce. Ho acoa cey peao e copaec e ee pecypco aepo ao pao.


Bce ac o oa, ec o oo oe e aeo oa, e epa ae eopa. ... aeo oa, ce yepac oce oca KC-co Smile)) a yo ooa. y.


Me cea acopaa "e aee oa", oope oey-o e xo ecoac. ac ae ec, o ao. Peao oaoc ea ea ec, o ce a ycoe ooopa. o a pa oxo c 2011.

Bopoc e oa y po e pae, y opoc 3aaa. Ec ee, o oaee, o ce aay pao yy oo o ocaay, ae poco BT e o aeoe opyee.

ocaae ce o co aco-ec eo, .e. eoxa opa epoa opaa. Oao a pecypca opa ee 3po opa. Peao ae oey ao "yo-ce" ae eaa ee e.

oo "yo-ce", oopa ae a 1 p. oapo o 30-40 ecx o ae oa epeaa ax e ec poeo.

Pecypce ce oae ce ocyae o epe poepoa ayca poeo o o pyo ypoe.

Oe cepee poe y y y pyca. Ka ccea ypae pooco oa eo ce e pecae. Oao ceac "cepeo oce" a E/C oo pey e 30%, a o 60% COCTBEHHX pecypco. ooy o c y o yxo pooe.

Hapo aa oyae opo cpoeca ao ee ex. Moe e o pao c pyco.... ...
o ""? Heo. Hao e peee, o xo apx aao. Po oec "poa" eopo e oo ao oe e y.
Dic



: 01.11.2003
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: , 19 2011, 19:18     :

Vladimir Ivanov ():
Moe e o pao c pyco.... ...
o ""? Heo. Hao e peee, o xo apx aao. Po oec "poa" eopo e oo ao oe e y.


B aepoe eoo e ee po pyc. B peoax e oaoe epee pyca c ye c A0 p. CK, E4, Pocao ... poe pee apepo eo a pee paccope xoo peea oppyec. B cpoex opaax c ocpaa poca oo pyc aece caapa ypae o eao.
Vladimir Ivanov



: 21.09.2003
: 3534
: TurboProject.Ru

: , 19 2011, 19:45     :

He oepe, paoae o cex epecex cpyypax, o ce c oa c aa aao.

Hac poco e "oo" oy, a o-cce oe 3O.
"ac" oe e a pyc. Ke e XER pcae. Cool
Pea pep: "ooa" - epee 8 . py, a oo a oo 3O oo 5 . py. Wink

Ec poea c E4. eo ae e o, o o coc pyc. Teya o pa oo oa, o oa poecca, a e poea, ooy co oo epeoc C x yo ye. c a aoe eyoe TCO o pycy, y ac ecoo pa x 3O aaao oey cooc o epexoy a Project. Ec "ex" apepax Oracle, o ya e a ya.

To o e opepyc a pyc - o eocao apea Microsoft aoe ae ec o eo cea, o eo oo o ape eooo. "o" pyc cee "ooo" poea, y oo coo yoo apeo cep ea, peyc pee. O oc oo ceac.

oe, o ce o "oa". paa aoa, o e ea xoe a C ooceo oee cepex poe. ae poe ec - KOPP.

Koppy E/C poeax oca ax eax acao, o ye ce oo, o eoyco cyecoae "poao-eopo" e cocex pecypco exoo ypae . ae opayec ex pa "cy-cy-cy-opo", oope e e ax pecypco peaoc poco ccea paca oa. c o 3aaa opo pec pc, .. y ex "ea-oa" ao e pa yoep, a ac yapea.

ooy ae CK ye e aae ooopa a cepee poe, ec y opa e "cocex c" a y a 30-40%. A o y cec, o o e opoe ee. Ka yee ypa paa yoepa pyce, oop "ey" pooceoo oppoa? Oe: a.

3aa ex poe a co oo oapo e e cce ypae pecypca o co o eye, oeoe oy eeepy. ooy apo ye xaaec a ce o oao, cac a caap a "pyca" "poea" x oy c 20 popeo, y a eeep cax 3aaax oppy "opacee caap Primavera" ax cyax.

o ec eoe eee cya: epexo o eapax pao ypae pecypca.

Oey, o CA aa e cya. O oo a pyce oo ce cpoeco a pyca ocpoee pa oaoo Kpca oe e. Ta a e a a ypaee pecypca, ooy ao e pecypc yoa pe poe. Ta "AIG ac acpaxye". ocpaxoac, ypa opa.

ya ca oaee, o ec pe ye ypaee pecypca, o o pyca aaac. e aac.
kirillproweb



: 15.12.2012
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: , 15 2012, 21:06     :

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